Monday, 24 October 2016

[PANN] 161023 BTS hub home gets caught for slandering other singers indirectly

ARMYs on PANN already posted regarding this [x]

These screencaptures are from BTS hub home "Free Room" and this Free Room can be only accessed by fans who went through the verification process of proof shots of many albums and streaming. This is much more shocking because this happened in a place where only genuine fans stay active. Furthermore, the hub home clearly mentioned in their rules that members can't talk about other artists directly (by names) or indirectly (hints that will make you guess who they are). I would like to know why the members are breaking this rule to slander other artists and fandoms.



1. BTSdotcom is an anonymous, informal speaking community.

1-1 members will call each other "닷" (dot)
1-2 Only the admin of the site can talk formally in the site.

2. This fan-community site supports all 7 members of BTS.

2-4 You're only allowed to mention other artists including fandoms only if they were directly involved with BTS.
It's a must to filter when you mention them. You are not allowed to mention them if they were mentioned in a negative way or compared to BTS in any way. (You are not allowed to mention them indirectly if it's possible for other members to guess who they are.)
You're not allowed to mention your previous oppa or other idols you like.

3. Please feel free to post but let's be polite

6. You are not allowed to mention other sites or other community sites.

-----1. Belittling big company idols and small company idols-----

They claimed that big company idols accomplished their achievements in a matter of few days because of their company's power.
"I can smell old fashion vibes from small company idols" , "You can tell the difference between a small company's idea compared to big companies", "Their aegyo looks like they've learned it from books and flirt so much that it makes others feel awkward" - they slandered other idols from small companies. I have no idea why they deify themselves by drawing lines between small and big companies and then slander other idols.

-----2. They insist they're the father of hub home-----

I have no clue since when hub home belonged to BTS fans only but when you read the comments they say "others can't follow the originator's level", talking as if they're the only hub home and they criticized  future hub homes of other idols saying things like "they're copying us". Since when did creating hub home equaled to copying BTS fans?


"I'm annoyed but I know other fandoms can't be as active as we are so... sighs...I'm going to control"

------3. Criticizing and attacking other fandoms whenever they're bored-----

It looks like this is a place filled with many people who believe it's okay when they don't address others by their names. And they also turn other fandoms as atm machines.


Honestly I think they're keeping our boys in check too much

they say they don't give a f*** but they honestly do care a lot ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ as if they're praying us to fail because we're on a roll ㅠㅠ they're running to come and slander us in every way (sighs)

- Earlier one 닷 saw a comment on a namcho site (site where majority of their users are male) and it said the commentor's cousin dongsaeng is "that idol's fan" and s/he hates us so he felt we're really popular ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ this is the realityㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ popularity is proportional to anti ㅠ
(anti = that idol's fan., they slander others again indirectly)

- They're scared because our boys are doing much better than the idols they stanㅋㅋㅋ seriously they're scared our boys will fly into the sky ㅋㅋㅋㅋ honestly I find their friendships hilarious ㅋㅋㅋㅋ they love friendships but I think it was Inkigayo? they were mass-text voting to not let us win the prize but I think the result was 1000:50 or something ㅋㅋㅋ

-----4. They don't just stop with criticizing fandoms, they criticize other singers-----

At present, promoting in China or promoting in general can be a very sensitive issue to the relevant singer. I can't help frowning at them saying things like "another artist's crisis is an opportunity for them" just because this place is filled with fans who support the same artist.



They slander our boys with every thing they can but they never mention their past or talent

They have nothing to be criticized about but they bring up the weirdest things to attack our boys and it's hilarious but meanwhile they never talk about predebut and our boys' talents and it's f***ing hilarious ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

- When they think of their own boys, they know it's going to hit them back to, right?? they have nothing good to talk about their idols' past and talent 

Original post here
Response +935 -152

I brought comments from Instiz because they're generally less violent than pann

1. ah I'm really embarrassed...

2. What's wrong with small company idols? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. Don't the admins do anything about them? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ They're from a small company too so why slander other idols from small companies?
ㄴ their posts were returned + deleted.

3. You all know that even if it's just a few of you, it's still not okay to post things like that... I believe we shouldn't just let go of this issue by saying things like we're generalizing or it's okay because this problem was caused by few people from a fandom...


4. Trainees do their best to enter big companies...

5. You're pulling other people's hair when we don't have enough time to support our own idols.. you guys are fangirling in a very difficult way ㅇㅅㅇ

6. I'm BTS fan too but I'm shocked to see such comments. And the issue here isn't if this fansite is a hub home or not. The point is that similar comments had appeared on the site frequently. Honestly I'm ashamed because of fans like them and I think BTSdotcom should post a written apology.
ㄴ seriously our boys who are working hard are being slandered...

7. I don't care if it's a hub home or not. The fact is that my idol was slandered by the members.


8. I know that this isn't BTS fans' fault~ We should blame those people who posted things like that on that site. I hope they give a feedback about this issue soon.

9. The person who screencaptured those posts isn't a fan so how can we prove that the commentors are fans too?
ㄴ i agree
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ㄴbut we can't prove that person who screencaptured isn't a fan of BTS too... I mean if that person thought it wasn't right to post stuff like that s/he could screencapture them, right?


10. I think that regardless of this site being a hub home or not, those posts alone can hurt other fans ㅠㅠ


(I decided to translate this post because some of you seemed confused..ㅠ and this isn't the complete translation because this is just... lol
I just hope we could spend our precious time loving and supporting our own idols without hating other artists...ㅠㅠ)

+) The fansite posted their feedback! (trans here)